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周育先受邀參加央視對話節目,談企業家精神,講中國火狐官網故事

來源:黨委宣傳部  發布時間:2020-08-10

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訪談嘉賓:
火狐APP黨委書記、董事長   周育先
鄭州煤礦機械集團董事長  焦承堯
武漢高德紅外股份有限公司董事長  黃立

點評員觀察員:
國務院參事室特約研究員  姚景源

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企業家如何直面上半年的“難”?

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行業活力恢復了多少?

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高強度碳纖維有何神奇?

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chenweihong:zhemejinguiwodoubugansuibianlale。

周育先:你使勁拉,拉不斷的。平時我們大家看到的飛機,真正的大飛機,比如說大型的雙通道的飛機,一個飛機就需要用20多噸這樣的碳纖維,除了機頭不是碳纖維復合材料,從它的中段、后段到尾翼,全部都是用的這個碳纖維。隨著我們國家的需求,原來從T300的強度一直開發到現在T1000的強度。那么普通的低強度的,比如說我們休閑的滑雪板、網球拍都可以用這種碳纖維做,但是隨著高檔汽車用的碳纖維,到了航空航天用的碳纖維,到了大飛機上用的碳纖維,都是需要更高強度。

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chenweihong:yenenggounaigaowen,yenenggounaidiwen。

周育先:對,耐高溫耐低溫,而且密度很低,它的密度是鋼的五分之一,如果同樣做一架飛機,用碳纖維做和用鋼做,重量減輕,變成了原來的五分之一,這樣飛機能夠更節約,更環保,所以平時材料領域一般說碳纖維是材料里的“黑黃金”。這個碳纖維火狐APP真是十年磨一劍,整整十年了,十年的前九年都是虧損的,到了今年第一年盈利。前兩天碳纖維公司的老總跟我打電話說,董事長……

陳偉鴻:我們盈利了。

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 他們為何“偏向虎山行”?

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周育先:企業當然第一責任是要盈利,但是作為一家央企還承擔了社會責任、國家責任,這兩方面的責任。我們國家整體的工業發展需要有這樣高端的產品,我們理所當然的在能夠盈利的情況下,應該全力以赴去解決我們國家沒有的材料,但是最終我們是要歸到能夠盈利的這一條。對科研成果不在于一時一事說贏了還是賠了,要看長短期的配合,我們有現在掙錢的產品,但是我們更要想到的是十年以后還能夠掙錢的產品。

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陳偉鴻:一種理想。 

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企業家如何平衡創新和發展?

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 陳偉鴻:難以為繼。

周育先:難以為繼,你企業都沒有命了,你的戰略自然是空的。真正的要平衡好這兩者的關系,可能作為一個企業家也好,一個公司也好,決策團隊也好,大概是一個比較難但又必須做出選擇的一個事情。    對待創新應該有多大的容錯度?

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可以彎曲的0.12毫米超薄電子玻璃

為何要把玻璃做得薄如紙片?

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chenweihong:ruguowoshiyigekeyanrenyuan,wokendingtebieqiwangwodelingdaonenggouyirongcuodezhezhongxinqinghetaidulaikandaiwodeyanjiu。suoyiwohenhaoqi,genninyezuoguokeyangongzuo,yezaishiyanshiliqidaizhuzijidelingdaonenggourongcuo,nenggoujili,shibushiyouyidingneizaidelianxi?

周育先:我覺得是,因為我自己也從事過18年的研究工作,就是我得想辦法這個點上能突破。但是現在我作為一個企業的董事長,我要考慮的是成果出來了以后,能夠解決我集團未來10年的盈利模式。

chenweihong:fazhanwenti。

周育先:能夠解決我們現在國家,以及我們整個材料行業所面臨的一些瓶頸,一些困局。我覺得作為一個企業來說,作為一個企業家來說,在我們能夠為股東提供比較好的回報的情況下,一定要去思考它的社會責任、國家責任。所以從這個意義上講,我覺得跟我自己做過研發有點影響,就是說那時候非常渴望我的領導、我的老總能夠容忍自己再有一點時間,可能能夠把這個成果完成。

chenweihong:zaigeiwoyinian。

周育先:再給我一年可能就能夠完成,可能自己也不知道到底要幾年,但是等到你突破的時候,你就會覺得原來這個是對的。

激勵創新有什么妙招?

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中國巨石浙江桐鄉基地

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 ruhegeiqiyejiazaichuangxinshang“songbang”?

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企業家如何用國際視野促發展?

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